Soon to be... LTA R2R DAC
May 17, 2024 at 5:02 PM Post #136 of 142
I'll be visiting LTA next Friday for a demo of the Z10e and Aero. I'll be bringing my Ferrum Erco Gen 2 for a DAC comparison and also because I'd like to evaluate the Z10e by itself. Headphones will be the Stax SR-X9000 and possibly the Shangri-La Jr and MDR-Z1R depending on how much I want to put in my car.
 
May 17, 2024 at 7:49 PM Post #137 of 142
I bit the bullet as well. Looking forward to re-creating my experience demoing the naked unit and a Z10e at LTA last year. Let's keep their staff busy fulfilling orders!
Nice - let's compare initial impressions.
 
May 18, 2024 at 6:35 AM Post #138 of 142
I'm interested in learning more about the chains that new Aero DAC owners will be deploying.

What I am considering is:

Roon Nucleus > Fibre > Rose RS-130 or Lumin U2 > LTA Aero DAC > LTA MZ3 > Headphones

The streaming transport is one of the final pieces in the puzzle. Costs are the same, technology is really similar, but physically different. The Rose is more visually appealing, the Lumin more functional.

Headphones wise, I am considering divesting my ZMF fleet. I just don't enjoy them as much as my Arya Stealth. I have never really been blown away by them sonically - perhaps sacrilege to admit. Please don't lynch me.

I want to audition HE1000SE and Audeze LCD-5. Susvara would be a great place to stop, but I don't think that MZ3 can't drive them to their full ability.
 
May 18, 2024 at 12:01 PM Post #140 of 142
Interesting.

Will post after arrival of new Auralic S1 streamer and Aero settle in.
I saw a YT review of the new Auralic two piece streamer. Looks very neat; almost dCs Lina like....
 
May 18, 2024 at 3:43 PM Post #141 of 142
I'm interested in learning more about the chains that new Aero DAC owners will be deploying.

What I am considering is:

Roon Nucleus > Fibre > Rose RS-130 or Lumin U2 > LTA Aero DAC > LTA MZ3 > Headphones

The streaming transport is one of the final pieces in the puzzle. Costs are the same, technology is really similar, but physically different. The Rose is more visually appealing, the Lumin more functional.

Headphones wise, I am considering divesting my ZMF fleet. I just don't enjoy them as much as my Arya Stealth. I have never really been blown away by them sonically - perhaps sacrilege to admit. Please don't lynch me.

I want to audition HE1000SE and Audeze LCD-5. Susvara would be a great place to stop, but I don't think that MZ3 can't drive them to their full ability.
I have Bluesound streamers for convenience of a single interface because I have three systems between home and office. I also like that they are small and can be hidden to reduce clutter. I would also be interested in opinions on sources into the Aero, my local shop is high on a Margules streamer so I plan to demo it.
 
May 25, 2024 at 2:07 AM Post #142 of 142
Yesterday afternoon I spent several hours at LTA HQ demoing the Z10e and the Aero DAC. I also brought along my Ferrum Erco Gen 2 for comparison. The Z10e's independent, per-input volume control was very useful for volume-matched comparisons between them.

For reference, the Erco Gen 2 acquired a number of technologies that were originally developed for the Ferrum Wandla DAC such as an improved discrete I/V converter as well as an improved apodizing digital oversampling filter developed in conjunction with the creator of HQPlayer. So the comparison is between an ESS9028Pro-based DAC with a solid-state output stage plus mini-HQPlayer built-in and a non-oversampling R2R DAC with a tube output stage. I listened with the stock tubes, which are 12SN7s with the GE label on them.

I had the preconception going into the demo that the Aero would be "tube-like", warmer, softer, thicker, bassier, maybe a bit smoothed over or rolled off in the treble with a bit less detail. All of the adjectives that people like to use for tube gear. Well, the Aero didn't fit that mold. I could not hear any lack of detail vs the Erco, which is impressive. I thought that the Erco Gen 2 with its improved upsampling filter was a notable improvement in detail perception from the Gen 1 Erco, and the Gen 2's improvements were similar to what I heard when using HQPlayer on my PC audio setup. And the Aero matches it in detail without any oversampling, with tubes in the output stage, and with a legacy 18-bit R2R chip as its DAC.

I'll go into more detail on its sound in a future post, but I got an interesting tidbit from conversation with LTA's Nicholas about the input board on the Aero. As noted earlier in this thread based on pictures of the internals, the Aero uses an input board from HEM, which is the parent company of Ferrum Audio. I asked if it was possible to port the Wandla's digital filters to the Aero given the use of the board, but the Aero only uses the input controller board while the digital filters are implemented on a different board on the Wandla, so the hardware isn't available to use oversampling filters. Nicholas also said that it was nice to work with HEM, which I like to hear.
 

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