Smyth Research Realiser A16
May 17, 2024 at 3:05 PM Post #16,021 of 16,078
does anyone know what’s happening with the Kickstand preorders? Any ETA on delivery dates?
According to my notes, no kickstarter orders have been delivered since Dec 2020. The last kickstarter order delivered was #289.
There are at least a couple of dozen kickstarter orders left to deliver.
A total of 356 kickstarters were ordered, but some may have been cancelled before the campaign ended.
No preorders have been delivered. No ETA on any deliveries.

I welcome any corrections so I can update my notes.
 
May 17, 2024 at 8:43 PM Post #16,023 of 16,078
So, I am selling a big ticket item and can potentially turn my preorder into a realiser that I’ll actually get. I wanted to run a few legit concerns I have by y’all because I’m really wondering if I’m just victim to the sunken cost fallacy.

1. Warranty and customer service. The warranty link on their website is down, and I honestly don’t really trust them to honor things. Is this off base? I’ve seen some stories of failed units, but am I just seeing a vocal minority?

2. Ease of use and extended effort. I recognize that there is a steep learning curve. At 52 with a kid, is this going to be too daunting? I’m not going to be flying out to a studio for measurements. So is it still worth it without that? Once things are set up, so you have to constantly adjust?

3. Resale. If I just can’t hack it, how much will I be out with resale?

Appreciate anyone’s thoughts as I navigate this item or just getting a high ticket amp.
I appreciate all the responses. He hasn’t replied so I’ll try again but most likely money will somewhere else. Ah, well!
 
May 17, 2024 at 9:24 PM Post #16,024 of 16,078
I appreciate all the responses. He hasn’t replied so I’ll try again but most likely money will somewhere else. Ah, well!
I would not be surprised if the reply took a week or more.
 
May 18, 2024 at 12:58 PM Post #16,027 of 16,078
Did you also preorder? What was his reply - on delivery / shipment ETA??
I ordered back in 2023. I sent email on my Friday evening May 26 and I heard back from James on May 30. He said there was a 20 day lead time. After I agreed to buy he got back to me June 12 saying the unit was ready and asking for payment.
 
May 18, 2024 at 1:06 PM Post #16,028 of 16,078
I’ve reached out to James for a quote, with the topic ‘realiser purchase’ to hopefully snap his attention and have him reply. I’ll let fate decide which direction I go :).
When I ordered my A16 I also ordered an additional remote and head tracker. The A16 requires the remote for operation so loss, battery leakage, pet chewing, etc could put you out of business for a while.

I put the second head tracker on my backup headphones. The head tracker seems pretty robust and the cables are obtainable many places, so a second head tracker is probably not needed if you don't think you'll use a second set of headphones.
 
May 19, 2024 at 5:30 PM Post #16,029 of 16,078
I can’t wait! John at 3DSS sent an email talking about his new upcoming Omega 96 Pro. It sounds like it is made with a single tower speaker for all “bed” virtual channels, and a single bookshelf speaker for all overheads, all virtual channels measured using Dolby/DTS/Auro standard positions. Plus extremely carefully measured subwoofers and a flat bass response.

A brief excerpt:

The Omega 96 Pro PRIR is by far…the most complete Realiser A16 experience anyone has ever produced. And it sounds AWESOME! As good as Omega 65 and 96 are… Omega 96 Pro is now my favorite PRIR listening experience. There is nothing like it!

There are still some things (demo creation and instruction manual) to complete before Omega 96 Pro is ready for its debut on the 3DSoundShop website… I am hoping it will be ready for your listening pleasure in the next three to four weeks. In the meantime… I thought I would share some of the details that make Omega 96 Pro so incredibly special!

The Rewards:
  • All 149 Dolby Atmos listening rooms, 50 DTS listening rooms, as well as the 28 Auro-3D listening rooms included with the Reailser A16 have been tested and are fully functional with Omega 96 Pro!
  • Omega 96 Pro includes two PRIR composites. One for Dolby/DTS and one for Auro-3D. Each PRIR composite has been set up for easy, fully automated listening room creation.
  • Future Proof PRIR: Omega 96 Pro includes several virtual channels that are not currently part of any Realiser A16 listening room… but the moment the Smyths activate these channels… you will be ready.
  • Omega 96 Pro PRIRs contain 71 virtual channels!
  • Many more details to share…

Over the next few weeks… I will be sharing the exciting new details of Omega 96 Pro with you via email updates. But in the meantime, I am happy to answer any questions you might have.
 
May 21, 2024 at 10:05 AM Post #16,031 of 16,078
While playing UHD movie "Alita" via PS5 through Sony X95K, I've noticed auto volume limiter working behind and always decrease volume to about 64 around and it is too quiet for me. So I turn off this feature then the volume finally becomes stable but sometimes clipped. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
 
May 21, 2024 at 10:30 AM Post #16,032 of 16,078
While playing UHD movie "Alita" via PS5 through Sony X95K, I've noticed auto volume limiter working behind and always decrease volume to about 64 around and it is too quiet for me. So I turn off this feature then the volume finally becomes stable but sometimes clipped. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
The best advice I have seen is to use a standalone headphone amp with a digital feed from the Smyth. That way you aren't constrained by the volume limits or potential clipping caused by the built-in headphone amplifier in the A16. There are a lot of options in the market - some are mentioned earlier in this A16 thread.
 
May 21, 2024 at 10:41 AM Post #16,033 of 16,078
While playing UHD movie "Alita" via PS5 through Sony X95K, I've noticed auto volume limiter working behind and always decrease volume to about 64 around and it is too quiet for me. So I turn off this feature then the volume finally becomes stable but sometimes clipped. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

Are your headphones plugged directly into the A16? If so, do you have it set to High Gain?
 
May 21, 2024 at 11:04 AM Post #16,034 of 16,078
So, I am selling a big ticket item and can potentially turn my preorder into a realiser that I’ll actually get. I wanted to run a few legit concerns I have by y’all because I’m really wondering if I’m just victim to the sunken cost fallacy.

1. Warranty and customer service. The warranty link on their website is down, and I honestly don’t really trust them to honor things. Is this off base? I’ve seen some stories of failed units, but am I just seeing a vocal minority?

2. Ease of use and extended effort. I recognize that there is a steep learning curve. At 52 with a kid, is this going to be too daunting? I’m not going to be flying out to a studio for measurements. So is it still worth it without that? Once things are set up, so you have to constantly adjust?

3. Resale. If I just can’t hack it, how much will I be out with resale?

Appreciate anyone’s thoughts as I navigate this item or just getting a high ticket amp.
I appreciate the points you are making - they were front of mind for me also. Responding to your points above:

1. Warranty - The Smyths had the misfortune of launching a high-end product far below cost (in the kickstarter) and were then hit by a major supplier problem together with Covid. A short read on this thread will give you a sense of some people's understandable frustration. On the other hand, my personal experience of the product (now in constant use for almost 3 years) has been very solid. Only one hardware fault arose (red screen requiring re-soldering) which was promptly recognised and fixed by the Smyths within a couple of weeks. Rapid response to emails and no charge for the fix, even though I had owned the unit for 18 months.

2. Ease of use - I am a 63 year old who has some limited tech and audio background. Learning to use the A16 was a whole new challenge for me, but no more difficult than mastering a new PC back in the day (although the A16 has been far more reliable!). It isn't totally straightforward, and you do have to print and read the manual, as well as look at the YouTube setup videos. But, even with that up-front time investment, you get a huge payback in terms of possible new speakers, overall sound quality and a complete transformation in the headphone experience. I managed to short-cut the initial experience by avoiding PRIR and HPEQ measurements - using Sennheiser 800 headphones allows you to leverage the default Smyth settings. You may find, as I did, that the default BBC room PRIRs are perfectly acceptable as you start to experiment with the A16. So I was effectively listening to music and watching movies within a couple of hours, before moving to more advanced settings. Another option is the pre-measured PRIRs available from John at 3Dsoundshop - you can experience his speaker measurements for Dutch & Dutch, Genelec and Omega speakers and many others - all are excellent, especially the Omega 65 and 96.

3. Resale - I have been considering another A16 for my second home so scan the market regularly. First, there are very few out there for sale at any time, mostly through Head-Fi or other specialist sites. Smyth has a very limited dealer network (one in France and one in the USA, as far as I know). And typical prices seem to be the same or above equivalent hi-fi prices - so 70% or more of new prices, and even more in some cases. So I wouldn't expect the resale value to be a problem, as long as Smyth are in business, and hopefully much longer.

Conclusion - Honestly, this has become my most-used piece of hi-fi and home theatre kit, to the extent that I use it more than all my other 2 systems put together. Living in an apartment with a spouse who doesn't share my taste in music and films - it's a potential marriage saver! By the way, I also recommend the original Sennheiser HD800 as the main pair of headphones for the A16. The tonal flexibility and robustness of the HD800 headphones makes them ideal for the A16, and the bass quality is astonishing. Even a used pair with worn pads can be fully upgraded to new at a reasonable price - Sennheiser has a fantastic spare parts service. You will have a learning curve for sure - but it is well worth the time and effort.
 
May 21, 2024 at 11:08 AM Post #16,035 of 16,078
I can’t wait! John at 3DSS sent an email talking about his new upcoming Omega 96 Pro. It sounds like it is made with a single tower speaker for all “bed” virtual channels, and a single bookshelf speaker for all overheads, all virtual channels measured using Dolby/DTS/Auro standard positions. Plus extremely carefully measured subwoofers and a flat bass response.

A brief excerpt:
I hope my question isn't too far up the stupid scale, but can someone explain to me (preferably like I'm 5) what "rooms" are in the context of this statement? : "All 149 Dolby Atmos listening rooms, 50 DTS listening rooms, as well as the 28 Auro-3D listening rooms included with the Reailser A16 have been tested and are fully functional with Omega 96 Pro!"
 

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