DIY Ground Box Thread
Jun 7, 2023 at 3:54 PM Post #31 of 1,758
Continuing... My DIY Passive Ground Box Posts from Aliexpress Cables thread

LINKS: most relevant, starting from oldest

10) Thread Post #: 2,174 and 2175 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-145#post-17278571
11) Thread Post #: 2,312 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-155
NOTE: First ground box (not jimmy rigged) built with pics
12) Thread Post #: 2,326 and 2327 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-156#post-17295695
12) Thread Post #: 2,329 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-156#post-17296822
13) Thread Post #: 2,380 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-159#post-17303700
14) Thread Post #: 2,536 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-169#post-17330894
NOTE: Post 2536 is at the bottom of page 169
15) Thread Post #: 2,553 and 2555 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-171#post-17334918
16) Thread Post #: 2,565 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-171#post-17336043
17) Thread Post #: 2,572 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-172#post-17336315
18) Thread Post #: 2,596 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-174#post-17339747
19) Thread Post #: 2,608 and 2609 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-174#post-17341563
NOTE: Best wire I found so far is the 6N OCC Single Crystal copper stranded twisted pair. I recommend the wire and how to get it in later posts
18) Thread Post #: 2,613 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-175#post-17343067
19) Thread Post #: 2,615 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-175#post-17344726
NOTE: Material and mixes for both Tourmaline and Magnetite mixes
18) Thread Post #: 2,619 and 2620 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-175#post-17345246
19) Thread Post #: 2,644 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-177#post-17350169
20) Thread Post #: 2,652 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-177#post-17356251
21) Thread Post #: 2,659 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-178#post-17357089
NOTE: Started to compare the Aliexpress 6N Single crystal vs the Neotech same specs

Tired of reading, more to come...
 
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Jun 7, 2023 at 4:08 PM Post #32 of 1,758
Continuing... My DIY Passive Ground Box Posts from Aliexpress Cables thread

LINKS: most relevant, starting from oldest

10) Thread Post #: 2,174 and 2175 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-145#post-17278571
11) Thread Post #: 2,312 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-155
NOTE: First ground box (not jimmy rigged) built with pics
12) Thread Post #: 2,326 and 2327 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-156#post-17295695
12) Thread Post #: 2,329 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-156#post-17296822
13) Thread Post #: 2,380 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-159#post-17303700
14) Thread Post #: 2,536 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-169#post-17330894
NOTE: Post 2536 is at the bottom of page 169
15) Thread Post #: 2,553 and 2555 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-171#post-17334918
16) Thread Post #: 2,565 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-171#post-17336043
17) Thread Post #: 2,572 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-172#post-17336315
18) Thread Post #: 2,596 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-174#post-17339747
19) Thread Post #: 2,608 and 2609 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-174#post-17341563
NOTE: Best wire I found so far is the 6N OCC Single Crystal copper stranded twisted pair. I recommend the wire and how to get it in later posts
18) Thread Post #: 2,613 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-175#post-17343067
19) Thread Post #: 2,615 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-175#post-17344726
NOTE: Material and mixes for both Tourmaline and Magnetite mixes
18) Thread Post #: 2,619 and 2620 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-175#post-17345246
19) Thread Post #: 2,644 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-177#post-17350169
20) Thread Post #: 2,652 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-177#post-17356251
21) Thread Post #: 2,659 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-178#post-17357089
NOTE: Started to compare the Aliexpress 6N Single crystal vs the Neotech same specs

Tired of reading, more to come...
Great resource thanks CDA, thanks for your effort to index your experience and recommendations like this. 👏
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 4:57 PM Post #33 of 1,758
Great resource thanks CDA, thanks for your effort to index your experience and recommendations like this. 👏
My pleasure. My hope is this will help inspire others to experience what these devices offer to enhance their systems. I will try and complete the links list by tomorrow.

I can confirm using a ground box to filter the ground portion of the coax connector at the wall, that feeds internet to your system/home works really well. I have more wire coming, when I get it I will also try filtering the coax connector at the router to see what happens there.
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 5:14 PM Post #34 of 1,758
Here is an update to the DIY AC Power Cable Wraps, using Magnetite. Have tried it on 5 power cables in the same system. On four definitely improved performance, the fifth I removed after install because I did not like what I heard. But I will re-install and slide/adjust placement and let it settle in. After 4 days the tilt toward neutral is 95% or so gone. Tonally back to the way the system was before. This is with 4 wraps installed. No other minerals I have tried have the positive effects the Magnetite offers in this application.

What the wrap does, when installed at the center or around the center of the cable is:
- Feels what is being listened to has a slightly more natural flow (improved PRaT maybe?)
- Slightly quicker tempo
- Edges of notes more pronounced
- Overall a clearer picture in my mind as to what is being listened to
- Lower volume level micro detail is a bit more coherent

Hard to explain in words. When I listen to with and without the wrap, it is obvious in my mind "with wrap" sounds better. Anyone with Magnetite on hand, some plastic bags or sandwich bags and masking tape should try it and see what happens. Can make it nicer later if they like the results.
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 5:16 PM Post #35 of 1,758
My pleasure. My hope is this will help inspire others to experience what these devices offer to enhance their systems. I will try and complete the links list by tomorrow.
much appreciated, i didnt want to read all 200 sites of the aliexpress cable threade x)

Also looking forward to building bigger boxes once my chinch plugs are ready
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 7:50 PM Post #36 of 1,758
Continuing... My DIY Passive Ground Box Posts from Aliexpress Cables thread

LINKS: most relevant, starting from oldest

22) Thread Post #: 2,666 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-178#post-17359051
23) Thread Post #: 2,672 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-179#post-17363360
24) Thread Post #: 2,695 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-180#post-17364589
25) Thread Post #: 2,701 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-181#post-17365572
26) Thread Post #: 2,745 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-183#post-17387387
27) Thread Post #: 2,829 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-189#post-17407110
28) Thread Post #: 2,834 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-189#post-17407294
29) Thread Post #: 2,836 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-190#post-17407370
NOTE: Building a quick temporary Jimmy Rigged Ground Box to test in a system. Also can use a plastic wire tie
to temporarily hold cable to component jack.

30) Thread Post #: 2,839 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-190#post-17408150
31) Thread Post #: 3,099 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-207#post-17513498
32) Thread Post #: 3,169 and 3170 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-212#post-17548239
NOTE: Aliexpress link to the 6N copper wire (14ga. is the 2.0 squared) and some Q&A
33) Thread Post #: 3,199 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-214#post-17552445
34) Thread Post #: 3,219 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-215#post-17553941
35) Thread Post #: 3,238 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-216#post-17560481
36) Thread Post #: 3,280 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-219#post-17568848
37) Thread Post #: 3,335 and 3,336 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-223#post-17577310
38) Thread Post #: 3,388 and 3,389 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-226#post-17580935
39) Thread Post #: 3,457 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-231
NOTE: scroll down the page to find post 3,457
40) Thread Post #: 3,476 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-232#post-17591317
NOTE: Referring to adding two cables from one box
41) Thread Post #: 3,485 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-233#post-17592339
42) Thread Post #: 3,494 - https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-233#post-17593252
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 7:55 PM Post #37 of 1,758
Jun 7, 2023 at 8:08 PM Post #38 of 1,758
It had occurred to me previously that as the OP of the Aliexpress Cables thread, @dougms3 could've done this by updating his first post to an index of topics covered, which would only be fair given he must surely get a slice of the lucrative pie that is the HeadFi advertising revenue on that thread... :wink:
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 9:21 PM Post #40 of 1,758
It had occurred to me previously that as the OP of the Aliexpress Cables thread, @dougms3 could've done this by updating his first post to an index of topics covered, which would only be fair given he must surely get a slice of the lucrative pie that is the HeadFi advertising revenue on that thread... :wink:
Lol head fi gives me nothing, considering all of the views I bring them, it'd be nice if the mods aren't constantly deleting and filtering my posts when I retort the trolls. Every now and then they wander in when they get brave with their tantrums and white knuckled child science.

Theres alot of valuable info that cdacosta is providing.

Theres so many things going on in the aliexpress thread that I'd hate for all of this ground box info to get lost in it.

Thats a good idea jake but I'm not that organized, there was a whole bunch of other things I meant to update in the first post of that thread but I forgot what they were.
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 9:27 PM Post #41 of 1,758
Your question
Lol head fi gives me nothing, considering all of the views I bring them, it'd be nice if the mods aren't constantly deleting and filtering my posts when I retort the trolls. Every now and then they wander in when they get brave with their tantrums and white knuckled child science.

Theres alot of valuable info that cdacosta is providing.

Theres so many things going on in the aliexpress thread that I'd hate for all of this ground box info to get lost in it.

Thats a good idea jake but I'm not that organized, there was a whole bunch of other things I meant to update in the first post of that thread but I forgot what they were.
When are you going to try a serious ground box in your system? You have the gear that can really hear the difference they make.

Bro, I will build you a ground box, cable and pay for shipping... if you give me fo.Q in exchange! Actually if someone traded me enough fo.Q I would do that for anyone.
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 9:36 PM Post #42 of 1,758
What type of wire are you using to connect your devices to the ground box and is there any risk in using the wrong wire/twist and ending up creating an antenna for noise instead?
I have tried many different configurations and gauges. The best overall general cable I have run into is discussed in the following link:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aliexpress-cables.963919/page-212#post-17548239

Where to purchase is in the post linked above. It is the wire you see in the background of the pic I provided. Dual twisted 2.0 square (14ga.), Aggregate of 11ga.

The cable (wire, connection at the ground box and connection at component) is extremely important to the performance of the ground box. 50%+ the performance of the device. One does not have to do mental gymnastics to know this. All one has to do is try the different wire, listen, and you will know immediately.
 

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Jun 7, 2023 at 9:46 PM Post #43 of 1,758
Your question

When are you going to try a serious ground box in your system? You have the gear that can really hear the difference they make.

Bro, I will build you a ground box, cable and pay for shipping... if you give me fo.Q in exchange! Actually if someone traded me enough fo.Q I would do that for anyone.
I love this, fo.Q (Unobtainium) as currency!
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 9:51 PM Post #44 of 1,758
Your question

When are you going to try a serious ground box in your system? You have the gear that can really hear the difference they make.

Bro, I will build you a ground box, cable and pay for shipping... if you give me fo.Q in exchange! Actually if someone traded me enough fo.Q I would do that for anyone.
I'm really not looking forward to this. I tend to get obsessive about these kind of things.

I'll probably end up with ground boxes attached to my fridge and blender trying to improve my audio system.

Unfortunately, I only have a little bit of fo.q tape left and I can't spare what I have but I really want one of those ground boxes.
 
Jun 7, 2023 at 9:57 PM Post #45 of 1,758
I'm really not looking forward to this. I tend to get obsessive about these kind of things.

I'll probably end up with ground boxes attached to my fridge and blender trying to improve my audio system.

Unfortunately, I only have a little bit of fo.q tape left and I can't spare what I have but I really want one of those ground boxes.
If you are really that obsessive you are truly screwed. If your reaction is anywhere like mine once I heard what they can do for a system...
 

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